League Schedule Change

[printman]

Since the extra baskets at Klein are not really that playable right now, week 6 of league will be at Pleasure Island. This will make it more balanced and make everyone play at least one round at the Island. So 5-10-06 will be at Pleasure Island @ 5:30-6:00.

[AveSatani]

Me and Rufus played the island yesterday afternoon. The grass is cut and the course is getting really green and the trees are filling out (tighter fairways). Hole 13 and 14 are almost totally dry the water on the sticks on 14 is getting low.

[fuzzy]

Yeah you better practice out there, i coasted through an easy 8 down at Klein yesterday, so the Island is your only hope ;)

Do we need to put anything on the agenda related to PI when we meet?

[el-jefe]

you guys can practice out there. Im going to bowling green! 8)

[AveSatani]

nothing for an agenda i can think of.

Yeah, Ruf played 5 and I played 6 and we missed AT LEAST 4 birdies. The island was perfect - no wind and no skeets.

[fuzzy]

Yeah well, I banged the basket on my putt on AT LEAST 4 baskets yesterday...like i said, it was an easy 8 ;)

BTW, we saw Ray after we finished and he actually QUIT his round, he was freakin 9 down after #13 :o :o He had his kids with him and there were some skeets out, hopefully someone that was up there kept an eye on the kiddos while he went back and smashed the course record. I guess it would be unofficial since no one would have been there to witness every hole he played but would still be nice for someone to raise the bar higher.

[el-jefe]

yea, thats what I was saying at states about half the strokes over par I took. " if only that put were an inch higher and went in instead of banging the basket" Maybe we should plan 1 day a week for our competitive players to practice putting or speciality shots instead of playing a round. I guarantee our play will get better and ratings will go up.

[AveSatani]

Practice at home - Play on the courses!

No witnesses, no record. Not that I doubt him but that is the way it is.

We'll see if you can play 8 this week ;) I'll annouce the scores just to screw with everyone - unless i'm really sucking :mrgreen:

[sturmgeist]

Well... honestly aren't casual rounds practice time? I practice my specialty shots and putts at home to get the mechanics, and then I practice them at the course during casual rounds to see what works in real situations. One bad thing about repetitive practice - if you are practicing bad form, then you get muscle memory developed TO that bad form, which is why you see me throwing anheyzer off the tee so damn often :sad:

[el-jefe]

all the pros will tell you to putt at least 100-200 putts a day. If you can make all your putts within 30 feet you will usually win. Make a bad drive? make it up on your upshot, make a bad putt, you take a stroke. If you have bad form but are still making putts 60-70% of the time, keep throwing because thats not a bad putting %. If you are not making the putts even though you are practicing them, then you need to tweak the way you putt and it makes it easier to correct the problem if you have other players analysing your putting style and making corrections in your technique. As for speciality shots, you don't have to throw them but 3 or 4 times a round but you have to putt every hole unless you ace or slam your upshot. Talk to a pro and he'll tell you he only plays maybe once a week but he practices putting every day.
PS I just got finished playing with the winner of the bowling green am champs (adv) Will Ennis (?) I can out drive him and have as good an upshot as he has but he makes all his putts within 30'. he beat me by 6 strokes.

[AveSatani]

damn, i hate to admit it, but jefe is absolutely correct on this one.

[el-jefe]

damn, i hate to admit it, but jefe is absolutely correct on this one.
has hell frozen over? are pigs flying? hold on let me reread that post. Id a never thunk it could be. Thanks Roy. :mrgreen:
Let me go back and read what I wrote again I already forgot.

[Jrodisc]

Personally there is never a time when I'm not practicing. Whether I'm in a tournament or putting in DG's backyard I'm always trying to improve my muscle memory.

[el-jefe]

you better be playing in a tournament. you can only achieve muscle memory through repetitive motions and when pleying a round you don't get that. plus in a tourney you don't want to be tweaking things too much. alot of putting is confidence and when you miss a putt and decide to change something in your stroke you have lost a lot of confidence. I would practice, I would play rounds to get an idea of how your practice is improving your game and find out what you need to work on and then I would play a tournament to win. Playing a round is not practice, its more an evaluation, a test. Practice is perfecting a throw, whether its putts drives upsots skippers or any other shots. This is just an ideology I am accepting because I have been speaking with some of the players who win or are at a level to kick the crap out of anyone I know.

[dg]

Pros are pros because of their putting ability.

Some pros can throw real far, some pros can pancake 300, some pros can sidearm with pinpoint accuracy, but ALL pros ( or at least pros that win ) can putt.

Casual playing is not REAL practice. REAL practice is throwing in a feild, REAL practice is putting AT LEAST 100 putts in a day, you putt 300 putts in a day, you will be making a lot more putts.

And yea, if you can make 90% of your 30 footers and closer, you will probably kick everyones ass.

Problem is, everyone that knows this "secret to disc golf" never does it, lmao

[sturmgeist]

Yeah, but throwing in a field is just practicing mechanics, it's not situational practice. Throwing in a field doesn't teach you anything about accuracy - granted it helps develop the mechanics necessary to achieve accuracy, but unless you have outstanding visualization skills, which 95% of the populace does not, it doesn't teach you how to put your shots right where you want them.

Driving in a field is real practice, playing a casual round is real practice, I think ANY time you're making an effort and not losing your mental cool, then you're practicing. It's practice, because you are learning firsthand what works and what doesnt. And if you're not learning anything when you're actually playing, casually or not, then no amount of practice off the course is gonna help you.

Play a round with Vance, that's great practice.

[sturmgeist]

Look at it this way - say you fight for a living. You run, you weight train, you skip rope, you shadow box, you work the heavy bag, you work focus mitts with a partner, and depending on the fighting, you may do groundwork - wrestling and submissions. But those just give you the basic skills, the only real practice you get is the time you spend in the ring, sparring or in real fights, when you put those skills together and test them.

[AveSatani]

The "situational practice" you are refering to is really your mental game. Trust me, your mental game is stronger when you know you can make the putts. Good players have no worries of overthrowing or missing the basket on a putt because they know they can make putt back - so they are running at it when others are half-heartedly putting/laying up. Now it is true, the more tourneys I play the less anxiety I have, and am less likely to do something stupid. Obviously (see my +15 round at the States :-( ) I need to play more tourneys to improve that aspect of my mental game.

[iflingpu@u2]

it seems you guys need some type of support group.There are other things out there other than DG.tell me if you find 1

[el-jefe]

Throwing in the field on 5 has made me more accurate on my drives, just look at some of the hyzerflip shots I have the confidence to throw and the accuracy on my distance drives. You cant learn that playing a round that "only" comes from practice. Learning to throw a disc and knowing what that disc does means no matter what "situation" arises, you know a disc and a technique to make that disc do whatever needs to be done in that "situation". Playing a round is not practice, its an evaluation of your play.

[iflingpu@u2]

if i spent as much time playing golf instead of drinking golf i might get the hang of it. but as a rule the more you do it [being whatever] the better you can get in time ive been drinking Lone Star for 18 years none of you guys know of any one who can do it bettr practice does make for bettr? . i throw 100 200 300 putts a day for 2 years i still dont know how only kneel can help me now!

[el-jefe]

yah, if you went back to putting like you were last summer and quit kneel putting, youd be bettr.

[iflingpu@u2]

dont know how that was, dont remember, does it really matter? i have fun when i play now it use to be exausting trying to make every shot.now i just try to make all 18 hoes. kneel is the best at everything, aint she?