Tyrrel Park

[dg]

We've got more than half the baskets for Tyrrel, so when are we gonna put Tyrrel back together.

[fuzzy]

i voted this summer but what i would really vote for would be....

option X: Whenever we get 18 new baskets to do it

[iflingpu@u2]

so we JUST have to have new baskets? just cause you cant hit the old ones? lets put em back till YALLS el presidente forks out the money for new ones.or where is the money going to come from? weve put money in ,no return. ive already GAVE 2 of my personal baskets to teryll. ive got 4 more no chains,i dont want to sound dikin but someone has to DO something instead of typing it. WE as a club LOL!!!!!!! should get together not in a bar, but a serious meeting of feeble minds discuss all the needs of the MOUSCATEERS and actually acomplish atleast one thing other than starting a poll. if you feel the same lets do it. if you feel different as POPEYE would say [blow me down] if were a club lets act like one i feel that it is a little spread out lets get on the same page not the same web page. lets make it work so we as a group can prosper.or fall trying to better the sport no matter where the baskets are located ill flingpu@u and u2 as mike jordan would say JUST DO IT or is that NIKE who cares lets get it started and eventually it will get finished. it took me all day to chicken peck this please read with open eyes and mind

[el-jefe]

I say we fix the old baskets, I have an og TB stroke saver with the zig zag basket that I would like to use on a memorial hole, dustin said we could use his portable as a permenant untill we can replace it with a new basket. I am sure other players have old tyrrell baskets that aren't really used much that could be used until replaced with new baskets. I would like to store the baskets in my warehouse untill we have 18 and then go out and plant them in one day. If there are only 7 or 8 at tyrrell no one will play them and they could disapear, kinda like whats happining at klein. So having said that, el presidente has spoken now its up to you injuns. normally everyone nods in agreement and then does what ever they want to do. So John, are you a chief or indian? you gonna grab baskets and put them at tyrrell or bring them to my warehouse like I had asked to happen the first basket move? if your gonna complain at least put in in context. If what I had asked had been done, I would have had half of them refinished. Some how Ive never seen nor heard of these new baskets donated to tyrrell. So there is a lot of talk with no action. As for putting in money, the money is there we just need to buy all at once to get the best deal. Talk, talk talk talk talk no action.

[fuzzy]

The reason I say new baskets is because the old ones are TRASH! The chains are rusted out, the chain supports need welds, which means they have to be stripped and repainted or galvinized. We have like 2 baskets with a usable pole, those arent free. Bottom line, once we finished putting money into making those baskets playable then we realize" hey you know we should have just gotten new baskets instead of wasting money on these peices of shit that are gonna fall apart on us".

Yeah sure, we dont have Tyrrell now, well when we did, NOT a single Klein player wanted or did play out there. Now that it is not there its suddenly a big deal...BLAH!!

BTW, have you seen the place lately? It's a big green turd that no one wants to trample through.

Go for it though. Go snag all the baskets you can and start sticking them up. We'll see how many people actually go out there and play the 11 hole Dorf on Disc Golf course yall can come up with. :mrgreen:

Half-assed black eye courses are NOT good for the area, it makes us look pathetic.

Lets stop this halfassed BS and actually do something right, or is that too much to ask for from the no action punks around here. Gimme Gimme Gimme....Kiss my ass.... :o

:mrgreen:

(did i lay it on too thick?? ) :mrgreen:

[Sportznut]

You know, This has always been an option that we once had a serious responce to... Why not take the older baskets to Claibourne ( sp) and get that one up to speed. At one time, we were in serious talk with the parks director who was VERY interested and even said the Orange county Boy scouts would have done some of the work as one of their projects. Granted, I havent been there in years so i dont know what it looks like out there anymore, But i do remember when we first started running wednesday night minis at the Island as GTDG, we had some people come over from lake Charles and a few from Vidor, Orange and Bridge City.

I know that yall are probably are really ready to get back to tyrrell, This is just an option.

[Tomwin]

He does bring up a good point here. The people over at the orange county parks department would probably go for that too if you brought it up with them.

How many of you have ever been to claiborne park to play disc golf? What a joke that is, I'd rather bbq in those than throw my plastic in them.

Sorry about Hijacking the thread, but it's something I think should be considered.

I haven't been out to Tyrrell Park since the storm, is the park itself still in pretty bad shape?

[dg]

Tyrrel has been pretty much cleaned up. At least all the fallen debris is definately gone.

Everyone wants to do this or that with Tyrrel, which is fine by me, I just figured since the baskets were going missing at Klein, and since the rest of the baskets werent doing anything, and since Tyrrel has been gone for a while now, why not put them back until the grand plan is errected?

So the baskets are put back as of today, the poll got me motivated and I didnt want to study anyways.

Tyrrel is a 10 holer, makes a circle, basically holes 1-5 and 13-18, the baskets welding is ok, two are short poled midget holes but we are getting that fixed soon.

As baskets come in, lets put them out there, if people want to change the holes to the old school original, new school but old days, or whatever, i dont care, i'll play

at least they are out there to play, and I attest to the fact that people will play them, john will go out, I will, probably drag a couple of klein rats out there, Tim works around the corner so he'll play, el jefe may resist but i'll coerce him into playing with profanity, fuzzy's disc golf skills may be to great to allow him to "neil" down to tyrrels incompleted and lack luster condition, but there will be plenty of rats at klein to keep him company, lmao

dont blame me for getting shit done cause I was bored, any plan anyone else has for the baskets can still be done, now you just gotta drive to tyrrel instead of klein to get them

[Sportznut]

OK, BUT if yall go ahead with getting new baskets at Tyrrell, Think sweriously about taking the old ones to Claiborne Park. The old ones would seriously upgrade what they have.. and if they get an 18 hole course there, they have a built in advertisment once a year, The Texas BBQ festival... That would be a great time to have a tourney, lots of spectators and media.... again, just a thought we had many moons ago... That was actually our plan before the offer for klein came up... I know alot of everyone playing is from the Bmt to mid-county, But look at the possibilities of adding in Orange county DGers to the mix. Same with Hardin County, but we never found a park suitable that would work there.

Congrats to Dg for taking the initiative to get something done.

anyways, Thats my .02

[AveSatani]

good job DG!

I didn't know baskets were coming up missing - i'm glad no one told me because i said from the beginning that was a bad idea to put more baskets out at Klein.

I say we get Tyrrell back up with the old baskets and as we get new ones, we replace the old ones - one by one. We need to have the course layed out like we want it with sleeves in the ground - using the old baskets - and then work from there. If we wait until we have all of them, it will be forever.

Once we get Tyrrell back up, I'm not opposed to putting older baskets at Claiborne.

[fuzzy]

Sooo, DG takes the baskets out of Tyrrell against what others said and puts them at Klein....they start getting ripped off like he was told they would.....he decides to put them back at Tyrrell and now is dubbed genius and savior of the baskets. :?

If it wasnt for DG's dumbass ideas he comes up with while falling asleep at his books, we would have 17 baskets at Tyrrell, pure genius I tell ya, pure freakin genius.....

[AveSatani]

Not really genius just stating that they are where they should be.
I'm getting used to having things half-assed because it is better than no ass at all. I would rather have some crappy baskets at Tyrrell than none at all.
I'm just fucking ecstatic that something/anything happened.

[fuzzy]

If they would have went to Jeff's shop like they were supposed to...

1... we would still have them all

2.... there is an off-chance that Jeff would have already fixed up a couple

I'd rather see shit that is worth doing get done then to always have some asshat do what they please whenever they please just becasue they were bored and didnt feel like playin klein that day. Hey, if you are bored, why dont you finish what you started at Klein in the woods...or are you bored with that too?

Stop jackin with shit, make a freakin plan, get people behind you and stick to the damn plan til the end or dont do the shit at all.

[iflingpu@u2]

to jeff it may concern: one basket was stolen from T.park john replaceds it W/one of my own that i purchased from TB 2 one was wrecked by tractor at T.park that I john replaced it W/one i inhereited from TB when he passed,i still have the wrecked one. with that said i never said i donated NEW i just replaced 2 old W/2 old ones and fixed a 3rd, now ive vented ? since you had to attack my character on the only way you know how ill leave it b. by the way what does the DICKTATER do when hes not running around lookin for characters to attack? hear alot see nuttin honey

[el-jefe]

Well all this is news to me. Must have all taken place a couple years ago. Thanks for the help John. As for what I do, Think about it for a minute. Do I take the club bank and go out for a night of hookers and crack? Do I find people who will donate money to the club through sponsorship? hell I have donated more than 350 bucks in the last year to the club. Some of the monies went to sponsoring events some just went to the club bank. Ya know, I do a hell of a lot that I don't boast about or even bring up, I just do it. If you want to attack me go ahead. It dosen't bother me too much especially coming from the people who tend to try to denigrate my character. I know they are not in control of their feeble minds. But sometimes I do respond. And my response is fuck off! find another president cause I won't be running again. I try and get things done and people will agree and then go and do the total opposite. Remember when you first pulled the baskets, I asked you to drop them at my office. I was going to sand blast them, weld where needed, replace chain where needed and repaint of galvanize out of MY pocket. Instead we got some holes halfassed in the woods. I am too the point where I don't give a shit what anyone says. the actions taken are like a slap in the face when I offered to make things better out of my own pocket. So fuck it, go walk in a circla through the crap a tyrrell and play 10 holes. I am sure they will be used quite often. All those kleiniacs who never played tyrrell when it was complete are gonna play it now? What a joke. My giving to this club is over. Why don't you get out a raise some cash instead of bitching that we are not spending what we have. How about we pay more for less so you can see some action. Seem like we have an endless supply of funds. I am sure Ill see you at klein, at least till the digging starts, then its the island . Beaumont will not have an operable course for a while. Im sure youll be playing tyrrell though, lol what a joke. Piss off all you feeble minded beeotches, if your gonna take any action at least make it worth it so that the little work that is done actually has some chance of making a difference in the long run. Now that I have vented, see ya at league this afternoon.

[iflingpu@u2]

bitchin is what i do,ive never said use club money for anything.thats what yall do. ive spent out of my pocket am i any bettr? no i dont ask for nuttin. just get T.park back together ,its started as far as ME doing what you asked you are a grownup you are out there and could have easily brought a basket or 2 at your convienence to work on dont jump on me cuz you want someone else to do leg work. this can go on for ever as far as you being pres. ive never taken any thing away from what you try to do,i joke W/yoiu about never belittling what youyve done.your choice is yours to make.i admit it was bad idea moving bas. but i believe i saved a few from inevitable destruction by cleanup. take what you want give the same it dont change me or my mind,if you want to attack do it ill still flingpu @u &u2 golf will still be there when were both gone,we can enjoy it or typfyt about it im gonna play and your type written hatred towards me affects my typwrytn words nuthing else. dont want to lose an adequate player or what i thought was an inadequate fiend

[dg]

its funny how everyone gets so offended, lmao

I know hippy likes to rip on everyone, especially el jefe, but calm down jeff, he's just ripping on you cause your on top, king of the hill shit, if it was roy as president, he'd be ripping him too

no one is really ripping me except fuzzy, its kinda cute really, fuzzy ripping people

Sooo, DG takes the baskets out of Tyrrell against what others said and puts them at Klein.........
Who told you I took the baskets out of Tyrrel? I only helped get a few the second trip out there. This would have made your rant make more since though, so I understand your need to slant the truth.

They start getting ripped off like he was told they would
No one came up to me and told me that these baskets were gonna get stolen. Oh, I bet YOU did though.

he decides to put them back at Tyrrell and now is dubbed genius and savior of the baskets.
Thanks for the flattery, I dont recall anyone saying I was the savior of baskets, I recall them saying they were glad there is a playable course, whether its too shitty for you to play or not.

I'd rather see shit that is worth doing get done then to always have some asshat do what they please whenever they please just becasue they were bored and didnt feel like playin klein that day.
No, you would rather see those baskets never go back to Tyrrel, you would rather wait for 18 NEW baskets before putting anything out at Tyrrel. Oh, and I DID feel like playing Klein that day, so after me and Wozniak spent 4 hours of our own time, we went and played Klein.

why dont you finish what you started at Klein in the woods...or are you bored with that too?
I wish I had my own personal brush hog, but I dont. Hopefully sooner than later, I will have a brush hog driving around out there, then you wont be able to use that one liner on me anymore. lol

make a freakin plan, get people behind you and stick to the damn plan til the end or dont do the shit at all. Well, the baskets I put back at Tyrrel are where they were pre RITA, which was where everyone PLANNED them to go before the storm, i just stuck with the plan. If you have another plan, be my guest, you know where the baskets are, they are at Tyrrel. No one is stopping you from doing what you want to do. Well, if you want to pull the course while we wait for new baskets, there might be some people who dont like the idea. But hey, some people didnt like my idea of moving them back to Tyrrel in the first place, well actually only you, but I did it anyways.

I dont really care what happens at Tyrrel, I just wanted what baskets we did have to go back, so that they are where they belong, and if anyone wants to play Tyrrel they can. Just dont plan on seeing Scotty Martinez out there, he hates that course.


LOL, really though, HIPPY you sure ride EL JEFE pretty hard. I guess we do need a new president so that HIPPY can ride someone else real hard for while. I know its not gonna be me cause I dont want to be the brunt of HIPPY's anti-power ranting, although it is amusing.......

[iflingpu@u2]

circus ponies are fun to ride,anyone with or without a saddle,hippy rides for fun and rides free.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe not free but not at my expense,get in line everybody will get a chance to get a ride.

[fuzzy]

its funny how everyone gets so offended, lmao

I know hippy likes to rip on everyone, especially el jefe, but calm down jeff, he's just ripping on you cause your on top, king of the hill shit, if it was roy as president, he'd be ripping him too

no one is really ripping me except fuzzy, its kinda cute really, fuzzy ripping people

i try

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Originally Posted by fuzzy
Sooo, DG takes the baskets out of Tyrrell against what others said and puts them at Klein.........


Who told you I took the baskets out of Tyrrel? I only helped get a few the second trip out there. This would have made your rant make more since though, so I understand your need to slant the truth.

yeah YOU had nothingn to do with it...aince i have nothing in writing, lawyer boy, i guess i cant prove it

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Originally Posted by fuzzy
They start getting ripped off like he was told they would


No one came up to me and told me that these baskets were gonna get stolen. Oh, I bet YOU did though.

yup, that was me, i imagine someone else must have brought it up too though, but i dont have it in writing so i cant prove it

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Originally Posted by fuzzy
he decides to put them back at Tyrrell and now is dubbed genius and savior of the baskets.


Thanks for the flattery, I dont recall anyone saying I was the savior of baskets, I recall them saying they were glad there is a playable course, whether its too shitty for you to play or not.

its all BS, no one is gonna play out there, just like before, except this time they wont be playing a 10 holer instead of 18, but thats just spectulation i have no proof

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Originally Posted by fuzzy
I'd rather see shit that is worth doing get done then to always have some asshat do what they please whenever they please just becasue they were bored and didnt feel like playin klein that day.


No, you would rather see those baskets never go back to Tyrrel, you would rather wait for 18 NEW baskets before putting anything out at Tyrrel. Oh, and I DID feel like playing Klein that day, so after me and Wozniak spent 4 hours of our own time, we went and played Klein.

NO, that is one thing i agreed could be done and was a good idea. On more then One occassion now you have said that IS what I wnated and more then once I had to correct you...we dont have a stenographer so I cant go back and get it off the official transcripts so i guess its not admissable


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Originally Posted by fuzzy
why dont you finish what you started at Klein in the woods...or are you bored with that too?


I wish I had my own personal brush hog, but I dont. Hopefully sooner than later, I will have a brush hog driving around out there, then you wont be able to use that one liner on me anymore. lol

Jeff told you to mark the fairways and the city would come clear it, YOU were the one who just kept doin g it on your own with your hands...but thats heresay so you can strike that


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Originally Posted by fuzzy
make a freakin plan, get people behind you and stick to the damn plan til the end or dont do the shit at all.

Well, the baskets I put back at Tyrrel are where they were pre RITA, which was where everyone PLANNED them to go before the storm, i just stuck with the plan. except now we are minus a few so you could experiment with them on your unfinished and never-will-be-finished woods project...yeah I know, speculation, strike that tooIf you have another plan, be my guest, you know where the baskets are, they are at Tyrrel. No one is stopping you from doing what you want to do. Well, if you want to pull the course while we wait for new baskets, there might be some people who dont like the idea. But hey, some people didnt like my idea of moving them back to Tyrrel in the first place, well actually only you, but I did it anyways.

Only me cause I was one of then only ones who knew and who knew the options....i bet if you told them that you COULD have brought them where they would be fixed and replaced back at Tyrrell but instead took it upon yourself to put them back at TP because you got bored with Klein for a day, then others might have said it wasnt the best option also....speculation...errr

I dont really care what happens at Tyrrel, I just wanted what baskets we did have to go back, so that they are where they belong, and if anyone wants to play Tyrrel they can. Just dont plan on seeing Scotty Martinez out there, he hates that course.

You always say you dont care what happens where ...if that was the case then why are you the one that always does the stupid shit that helps nothing...or maybe that is why you do your little last second master plans, to fck shit up cause you dont care

LOL, really though, HIPPY you sure ride EL JEFE pretty hard. I guess we do need a new president so that HIPPY can ride someone else real hard for while. I know its not gonna be me cause I dont want to be the brunt of HIPPY's anti-power ranting, although it is amusing.......

Might as well be you, you seem to do whatever you want whenever you want anyway, moreso then anyone else...hell you got my vote for the gtDG club prez...hell you got my vote for PI-TP-Klein rep...treasurer,sec. and sole member

[iflingpu@u2]

yall are starting to sound like a bunch of bitches..

[iflingpu@u2]

that was lexie on her comp. i know you guys aint man enough to b bitches only semi bitches

[fuzzy]

had to be lexi....john knows well enough that we arent just"starting" to sound like bitches :mrgreen:

[sturmgeist]

I was also going to suggest putting the old baskets out at Claiborne if new ones come into play. Claiborne is a beautiful park and well kept, and it is a shame they only have the baskets that are out there, because I would love to play there, trip or not. I've even pondered takin my discatcher sport out there with a couple of friends and just playing safari golf for a day.

Also, Vance wants to know why nobody has brought him the baskets so HE could fix them. Perhaps we could split the baskets up between the parties who are able to refurbish them, so that no one person would be burdened with the whole lot?

[fuzzy]

quick answer...cause DG does what he wants with whatever he wants :o 8-)

[dg]

ok, you guys win

i'll go pull all the baskets so that you guys can refinish them

maybe yall will do it sometime before next summer, oh well if you dont, no one will play tyrrel anyways, right fuzz

oh wait, if no one will play tyrrel anyways, why are you refinishing the baskets, no will play tyrrel anyways

i say we make will the president, and make scotty the liberal media

[sturmgeist]

:roll: The liberal media is about as real as the boogeyman. Something conservatives made up to scare their children into accepting their narrow view of the world. I am not a fan of politics at all, not in real life, certainly not here, so keep that BS to yourself.

[dg]

ok, sorry fuzzy martinez, your not the liberal media, how about 'debbie downer'

will, if you dont beleive that the media is biased to the liberal slant, you must have grown up near one of the other oceans

im sure you know everything about the topic though, you usually do, i still vote you for president

maybe you and hillary can run on the same ticket

[sturmgeist]

You know what? Piss off, I'm already tired of dealing with your BS, no way could I be president. :shock:

[Tomwin]

yall are starting to sound like a bunch of bitches..

It's true though.

[fuzzy]

ok, sorry fuzzy martinez, your not the liberal media, how about 'debbie downer'

will, if you dont beleive that the media is biased to the liberal slant, you must have grown up near one of the other oceans

im sure you know everything about the topic though, you usually do, i still vote you for president

maybe you and hillary can run on the same ticket

I may very well be a downer to your style of "getting things done"......trust me im not the only one...i'm just one of the only vocal ones that you cant seem to find a good argument against...law student and all, you should be mopping the floor with me...better beef up your skills before you get to a real courtroom.

Hopefully one of these days you can argue well enough that you can even slightly justify how much money you'll be stealing from people in the future.

[fuzzy]

It's true though.

yeah but you guys/gal cant seem to stop reading it all :mrgreen: I bet yall are hooked on reality TV too :mrgreen: Thats just as real as this...lol

[iflingpu@u2]

i didnt know dg was a student i thought he just hung around the bathroom at klein checking kneels messages for him

[el-jefe]

bitchin is what i do,ive never said use club money for anything.thats what yall do. ive spent out of my pocket am i any bettr? no i dont ask for nuttin. just get T.park back together ,its started as far as ME doing what you asked you are a grownup you are out there and could have easily brought a basket or 2 at your convienence to work on dont jump on me cuz you want someone else to do leg work. this can go on for ever as far as you being pres. ive never taken any thing away from what you try to do,i joke W/yoiu about never belittling what youyve done.your choice is yours to make.i admit it was bad idea moving bas. but i believe i saved a few from inevitable destruction by cleanup. take what you want give the same it dont change me or my mind,if you want to attack do it ill still flingpu @u &u2 golf will still be there when were both gone,we can enjoy it or typfyt about it im gonna play and your type written hatred towards me affects my typwrytn words nuthing else. dont want to lose an adequate player or what i thought was an inadequate fiend

Im sorry you felt the brunt of my wrath. DG should have gotten some of it. Its not fair of me to take it all out on you. A club cannot function if its leadership (ieclub pres and tpark course rep) are ignored. The road to hell is paved with "good" intentions. Enjoy the circle at tpark. I won't be there untill its time to put 18 baskets in the ground and play a full course. but thats just my decision. I was already upset yesterday because of the whole basket move and then I read the personel attack on me and kinda blew my top. I am sorry if I offended you John, and anyone else who read the post, it was very impulsive. Anyway, as soon as I get a true count of the baskets we have, Im told a few different peiople have some, I will order the baskets we need. John you have some tops and baskets? I have poles and we can buy chain. how much would you let the tops and baskets go for?

[el-jefe]

I was also going to suggest putting the old baskets out at Claiborne if new ones come into play. Claiborne is a beautiful park and well kept, and it is a shame they only have the baskets that are out there, because I would love to play there, trip or not. I've even pondered takin my discatcher sport out there with a couple of friends and just playing safari golf for a day.

Also, Vance wants to know why nobody has brought him the baskets so HE could fix them. Perhaps we could split the baskets up between the parties who are able to refurbish them, so that no one person would be burdened with the whole lot?

OC parks and rec ought to invest in baskets.We have no club members from OC so they need take care of their park. God knows they spend enough out there on other projects. I want to know why when I told a certain course rep to bring them all to my warehouse so I could do it I was ignored?

[dg]

when you are ready to refinish them, as in can do it tomorrow, i'll be more than happy to go get them from tyrrel park

its about the same drive for me as it is to klein, no big deal, just waiting on you to have the necessary tools and time to do it, some people would rather them sitting at the course until that time is now

really, nothing is different, they were sitting at klein waiting, now their sitting at tyrrel waiting

[el-jefe]

ok Soooo they won't get done. I can't tell you tommorrow at 3. I can tell you that I can do 4 or 5 in a weekend though and if I had help we could do them all on a sat or sun. Anyway, thats the deal. since you know whats best for the DG community get the rest of the baskets and get the course designed and installed so that its a course and not a cluster of baskets( use temp baskets or at least poles till w have all 18 baskets). You'll need to get pricing on replacement posts for those that are broken and get someone with the ability to take a welder out there and get it done just run the costs by Roy and me so that we can make sure we have it in our budget. Don't let the course sit there incomplete and half assed, git-r-done. I'll get this basket in my warehouse done over the weekend, hopefully. I can't wait to get tpark back up and running. how much time are you going to need so that we may plan the next league to include tpark. All I ask is you do it up right and not let it sit there incomplete.

[dg]

damn, you and fuzzy cant stand the fact that 10 baskets were put back where they originally came from

their not in a cluster, their in their original spots, unless the original spots were a cluster, you and fuzzy designed the original, so was it a cluster?

and YES, they are in a circle, actually the whole course of 18 baskets flows in a circle, so whats the big deal, its a f'ing circle, klein is a circle, the island is two circles joined in the middle, most courses are circles, im confused on this cirlce stuff

and please tell me, what has changed so that you and fuzzy can not do what you originally intended to do?

1. yall want to refinish the baskets, ok, why cant you do it now? do you not know where tyrrel park is, i've already volunteered to go them for you when you are ready to do them.

2. can you and fuzzy not do your new redesign now? cause the baskets are in yall's last redesigned places? im just really confused on this, how does where the baskets are now affect where you and fuzzy want them to go after they are brought to your shop to get refinished? they have to be taken up, transported, and brought back, bring them back to where you want them to go, i'll help

i was actually surprised by the negativity from you and fuzzy about this, i didnt change anything that you guys want to do, if you are ready to refinish all or some of the baskets this weekend (i cant help cause i have a final on saturday and tuesday), i will get them to your shop tomorrow

if you cant do it till next weekend, then i'll bring the baskets to your shop next friday, i can even help then

hey, if you want to do the baskets today, go get them, hell your shop is closer to tyrrel than klein

does anyone else see the logic for people getting pissed off about the baskets getting moved? if so i'll go pull them so they can sit at jeff's shop (or whereever they get fixed up)

el jefe, dont take it out on me cause fuzzy wanted to redesign klein, and although at first i didnt like the idea, i ended up supporting yours and fuzzy's idea, and then EVERYONE else hated the idea, and then fuzzy flip flopped and left you looking like a jack ass, blame fuzzy, lmao


p.s. I know your frustrated by the comments you get from those out there that like to attack the man in charge, but I think your more motivated for GTDG than anyone else posting their BS on this board. And you've come up with more money and more ideas than anyone attacking you.

[sturmgeist]

You know I think Fuzzy only "flip flopped" on the redesign thing because his redesign ideas were ignored and some people took it upon themselves to muck around the course with the transplanted Tyrrell baskets, creating a Frankenstein's Monster of sorts. You know if an architect got it in his mind to remodel a building he had designed, and shot the idea to someone, don't you think he'd have second thoughts about the whole thing when creative control was taken from him outright and he was told he was just there in an "advisory" role? Personally I'd be pretty insulted.

Ya'll created a fun diversion for a little while with the extra holes, but they all had a temporary feel to them, none of them proved worthy of any real permanence, and you can look at the lack of activity through those holes over the past few weeks as evidence of that. People just stopped playing them in favour of the original 18. Redesign, in and of itself, was not a bad idea - it's just that there was no real follow through on it, not in a positive direction. It sat there, half assed, and when no real work had been done on it, then it was decided to either rush through the thing or pull the course entirely. A lesson from the Art of War - the quickest way to ensure you OWN defeat is to order your troops to advance when they are at an impasse, or to retreat when their backs are at a wall.

So don't blame Fuzzy for that. If you were against the idea in the first place, just say "I told you so" and be done with it. But don't try to lessen your own share of the blame by putting it all off on him and Jeff, because you want the glory without the responsibility. If you want someone to blame, to make you feel better about your hand in it, then blame me, since I was the one who decided to speak up and let it be known what was being said by the people playing the course who don't frequent the site here. And by "people", I mean club members and non-club members, and even total strangers that I took the time to chat with about the whole thing. I never said I agreed with it all, but regardless of how much of it I agreed with, I still felt that those people deserved SOME sort of say in the deal, since the course is a public place, meant for anyone to be able to play, not just GTDGC members, MUCH LESS a select few OF those members.

But that's all neither here nor there in this discussion, and it's very typical lawyer-boy type behaviour to throw something in there so out of context. Diversionary tactics. Taking things out of context, and arguing semantics: two strategies of those who argue from a position that's lacking in substance.

What a lot of this is about, Dustin, is your rather impulsive behaviour. Most people plan things out. That's why the baskets can't be finished right. now. Because Jeff isn't just gonna wake up tomorrow and say "I think I'll go finish those baskets today... or just do some of them till i get bored." That's why there's negativity about the baskets being moved - cause you moved them around at your own whim while they were at Klein, which probably led to some people noticing that they weren't permanently installed, and then to some theft. And now they're back at Tyrrell, stuck in the ground, temporarily again, wide open to theft, which could be much more prevalent given that there's a lot less of us watching out at Tyrrell, when they could be sitting locked up safe in a warehouse, waiting for Jeff and/or David Vance to fix and refinish them. And as for the perceived inconvenience of their being at Tyrrell in regards to fixing the park, well, i think it's just a matter of logistics. It's easier to plant your course with a handful of baskets in reserve, as opposed to playing musical chairs with ones already in the ground. Overall, it's the fact that it seems as if you're just gonna do whatever you please with them at a moments notice. What if you decide one morning that they'd be better off out at Leifler park? What's to stop you from talking the first bystander you can find with a truck into helping you take them out there? Or Rogers park, or Magnolia Park or Wuthering Heights, etc...

And honestly man, if your best punch is to call me a know it all and Scott a downer, then you better hope you're more skilled at taking things out of context and arguing those semantics than you've shown here.

[fuzzy]

Sturm, dont read to much into that last paragraph where DG tried to push Jeff's attention on to me...he edited that part in, probably because he saw me online and wanted to see if he could goat me into jumping in to battle back. When that didnt happen he went to MSN messenger and , well, he basically lost his initial argument there and after multiple attempts to change direction of his arguments, and losing those too, he finally caved and changed subjects altogether :mrgreen:

[el-jefe]

damn, you and fuzzy cant stand the fact that 10 baskets were put back where they originally came from

their not in a cluster, their in their original spots, unless the original spots were a cluster, you and fuzzy designed the original, so was it a cluster?

and YES, they are in a circle, actually the whole course of 18 baskets flows in a circle, so whats the big deal, its a f'ing circle, klein is a circle, the island is two circles joined in the middle, most courses are circles, im confused on this cirlce stuff

and please tell me, what has changed so that you and fuzzy can not do what you originally intended to do?

1. yall want to refinish the baskets, ok, why cant you do it now? do you not know where tyrrel park is, i've already volunteered to go them for you when you are ready to do them.
I was going to refinish them. But I need them here to do that. My warehouse is closer to klein than tpark. they shoulda been dropped off here. Remember I have limited time and it comes sporadically, I cant tell you exactly when I can work on them, just that I will get them done.
2. can you and fuzzy not do your new redesign now? cause the baskets are in yall's last redesigned places? im just really confused on this, how does where the baskets are now affect where you and fuzzy want them to go after they are brought to your shop to get refinished? they have to be taken up, transported, and brought back, bring them back to where you want them to go, i'll help
It has no effect just means more work. When the course rep and the pres ask fop something to be done when you have obviously volunteered, hence the phone call I recieved and its not done, there is a breakdown in the structure of the club.
i was actually surprised by the negativity from you and fuzzy about this, i didnt change anything that you guys want to do, if you are ready to refinish all or some of the baskets this weekend (i cant help cause i have a final on saturday and tuesday), i will get them to your shop tomorrow
negative? no just upset things were not done as planned, planned by tparks course rep and the pres. planned so that it would be done. As of now you need to finish setting up the course. find the rest of the baskets and do what you have to do. Im positive and upbeat now that you have taken on the responsibility of tpark. I can't wait to see what YOU have planned.
if you cant do it till next weekend, then i'll bring the baskets to your shop next friday, i can even help then

hey, if you want to do the baskets today, go get them, hell your shop is closer to tyrrel than klein
see it would have been easier to drop them off here instead of tpark in the first place.
does anyone else see the logic for people getting pissed off about the baskets getting moved? if so i'll go pull them so they can sit at jeff's shop (or whereever they get fixed up)
they are gonna sit somewhere until the course is complete. They could have sat here and been refinised while we are waiting on the rest of the baskets to appear.
el jefe, dont take it out on me cause fuzzy wanted to redesign klein, and although at first i didnt like the idea, i ended up supporting yours and fuzzy's idea, and then EVERYONE else hated the idea, and then fuzzy flip flopped and left you looking like a jack ass, blame fuzzy, lmao
your the course rep out there and I gave you the ultimate decision on how klein needed to be fixed. Yes we were looking at a total redesign, lots of people liked the idea lots didn't.

p.s. I know your frustrated by the comments you get from those out there that like to attack the man in charge, but I think your more motivated for GTDG than anyone else posting their BS on this board. And you've come up with more money and more ideas than anyone attacking you.
thanks for the compliment. you too are very motivated, but you are even more impulsive than I am. having said that, our impulsiveness can cause us to do things that might sound like a great idea at the moment but when looked at from the broader picture probably isn't the best idea.

now, what are we going to do. Are you going to finish gathering the baskets? Are you going to replace the poles on the midget baskets? What are your planns now that you have started a project? Basically what I am asking is are you gonna finish the project or are you gonna just finish half of it and expect someone else to clean up after you? This is not meant in a derogitory way, I just need to know what happens next?

[fuzzy]

man, i dont know if it's just me but that light blue font kills my eyes lol

[dg]

allright, you guys win, no Tyrrel Park for now

if it takes you 6 months to get the baskets finished, rounded up, and put back, i hope klein doesnt get ripped up tomorrow

I guess theres the island


And Will, i dont mean this in a personal attack way, but maybe you should refrain from commenting on shit that you dont really know shit about just to start shit about. Go play some DG or some Dungeons and Dragons cards or something.

[el-jefe]

We need to know what baskets we have and how many need to be bought. I know John has some additional tops and bottoms that can be purchased and I have some poles. We need to get a count on what we have. If you have a basket from tyrrell let me know. I need it. Once we know exactly what we have, the project can be completed untill then, It will remain incomplete.

PS even with the 10 baskets at tyrrell park, there is still no tyrrell park. Don't make me or fuzz look like the bad guy here like its our fault there is no tpark (the looks like you guys win comment). Rita is to blame for that. Lets just work together to get it back. This is not hard to follow. we refinish baskets, we order replacement baskets, we set the park up. Its really the only order that it can be done in because I don't know anyone willing to play half a course more than once and the baskets can't refinish themselves sitting in the ground at tpark.

When they do begin to work at klein we will need to pull those baskets so the ground can be crowned and grated. They can be safely stored in my warehouse untill the work out there is complete. DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT USING ANY OF THOSE BASKETS TO TEMPORARILY COMPLETE TPARK!

Tyrrell park will live again, it will take some time unless someones got an extra couple grand lying around that they can donate to get it up in the next 2 or 3 weeks. to quote one of the gods of rock, guns and roses - " all we need is just a little paitence"

[dg]

Yea, well all I was saying was until your ready for them leave them at the park, thats the reason they ended up at Klein. You wanted them to go to your shop then (and Hippy offered to take them to his house to fix them, but I said why not use them at Klein until someones ready to fix them. Of course, no one ever got them from Klein and fixed them. I guess if their at Tyrrel no one will get them to fix them either. I just figured if you or anyone else was ready to fix them yall could go get them and do it. Its a dead issue now.....

[AveSatani]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/955000/images/_957612_king150.jpg

"People, can we all get along?" :lol:

[fuzzy]

Hey, shut your cork holster and go fix some teesigns or something :mrgreen:

[sturmgeist]

Very effective disclaimer there DG, not meaning it in a personal attack sort of way, yeah, my ass. But I's jus a poh paintuh, suh, I oh-know shit 'bout shit, no suh. You want I should dig you sum mo tee pad pits suh? I'll do a little shuffle whiles I do it, how bout dat?

Dunno shit about it eh? So all this that's been posted about is all just cryptic code for some other secret project you got going on then? If I take out all the vowels and reverse the consonants, and re-read all of it, THEN will I know maybe a little something about shit? Why is it that I don't know shit, yet it's YOU that's asking someone to explain it all to you? It's pretty straightforward.

If you don't like me voicing my opinion, then you got a few options - 1. ignore me(click my name and you get that option on my profile screen), 2. ask Tommy to ban me from the site for calling you on some BS, 3. make me refrain from "commenting on shit that (I) dont really know shit about just to start shit about." But I'm not willingly gonna be quiet, and shuck and jive for you. As long as I have a voice, like it or not, I have a say in what happens. UNLIKE you, I am at peace with the fact that my say is no more important than that of the most casual player who goes out there. That's the way it SHOULD be! I play a lot more often than most of you, despite my lack of experience, my lack of tournament ambition, etc. The only people I can think of that play AS MUCH as me, or more, are Bobo, John, and Neal. And yet I don't want extra consideration because of that, because it's not right. I don't constantly pat myself on the back for the things I've done, and I don't back peddle to shift blame to someone else when i've screwed up. When Kenny got out there and started filling in the #1 tee pad hole that I dug, I got in there and helped fill it because it was MY fault it was there, not yours and Jeffs for telling me to dig it. I have ZERO respect for the type of person who has to constantly applaud his own actions, except when he's squirming to avoid blame for his errors.

I do my best to do the right thing, in ALL facets of my life. And while it may not win me any brownie points, or make me any more friends, I call you on your shit because it's the right thing to do, wether it pisses you off or not.

Nope, I don't know shit ABOUT shit, but I knows chicken shit, and I knows bull shit, and I can smell when somebody's being one and full of the other. But I don't mean that in a personal attack kind of way, you know. :shock:

Anyway, despite the harshness of my words, I forgive your insults and attacks, ALL of which were quite personal, and as a test of your character, I'd ask that you forgive mine. Cause, prick that you are, I dunno... I just still can't help but like your malnourished ass. :wink: Or you could just tell me to **** off, or we could box, or indian leg wrestle, whatever, I'm down. :-P And be careful in the future to ONLY anger forgiving people, it'll keep you from needing a colostomy bag.

[CypressTrout]

Just wanted to say that it wasn't one ore more persons that started this whole ruckus, it was an unavoidable hurricane. This is a rebuilding stage & it'll take a while to get everything back together.

[el-jefe]

you said it saltwater brother! I just want decent baskets with 18 outside chains, 9 inside. a straight basket with no broken welds etc... Tyrrell park will be rebuilt, just not over night. Fuzzy and I just spent a couple hours getting things sorted and the welds sandblasted that need fixin. We are gonna strip the baskets some time this week and send them over to tims place of work to get welded (and hopefully galvenized). We are also in the process of rounding up the needed replacement baskets. hopefully in the next month or two everything will be done and ready to go in the ground.

[chessguy]

Hey, guys. Take it easy, will ya! :D

[dg]

Cheese Guy/Real Name No Gimmicks

Two trailer park girls go round the outside;
round the outside, round the outside
{*scratches*
Two trailer park girls go round the outside;
round the outside, round the outside

Guess who's back
Back again
Cheese guy's back
Tell a friend
Guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back
guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back..

I'vecreated a monster, cause nobody wants to see Neal no more
They want Cheese Guy, cause he's much better
Well if you want Chees Guy, this is what I'll give ya
A little bit of weed's mixed up with some of my pink plastic
A little warm up putting to make my game fantastic
then get shocked when I shock you on the DG holes
with my rainbow putt that be levitating
When it bricken off the basket it quit levitating (hey!!)
You waited this long, now stop debating
Cause I'm back, I'm on the rag and ovu-lating
You know that I got a job Mrs. Cheese
but my DG situation is complicating
So the FCC won't let Cheese be
let me be Cheese, so let me see
They try to shut me down on GTDG
But it feels so empty, without Cheese
So, come on and dip, bum on your lips
F that, some on your lips, and some on your discs
And get ready, cause this shit's about to get heavy
I'm back with some shart in my pants, YOU READY!

Now this looks like a job for Cheese
So everybody, just follow Cheese
Cause we need a little, controversy
Cause it feels so empty, without Cheese
I said this looks like a job for Cheese
So everybody, just follow Cheese
Cause we need a little, controversy
Cause it feels so empty, without Cheese

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[CypressTrout]

Which is it ??? N3al or "the other n3al" ????? Nice work, Slim Shady.

[chessguy]

Hey, Kevin. Great shooting at States and congrats on the big win! ...Now move up and stay up for petes sake. :-)

[sturmgeist]

As my reign as forum heel comes to an end, and I step aside for infinitely more capable individuals, I have to say: it's been fun, DG you were a sport and handled my trash talking very well, though your promos could have been a little more polished, I understand, you are pressed for time pretty often and couldn't put the extra effort into the reaming I really deserved.

As for the whole old "resurrect one evil to defeat another" plan here with the Cheesegeyzer, let me just go on record as saying that plan never works, the old evil always breaks free of it's constraints and turns on it's new masters, and every once in a grand while, the two evils team up for a few issues to wreak mass havok before one angers the other and they showdown in a battle that covers a good portion of a major metropolitan city.

Now if you will excuse me, I need to get some air freshener. THe place already wreaks of limburger and brie.

[Sportznut]

Sorry guys, I sit back and read.. taking it all in.. But if you want a smack talking heel, Cheeseguy has got nothing on me.... I just havent awaken from my slumber yet.....

[el-jefe]

I am sensing some boredom from spotznut, kinda like he would like to take a whoopin from all these new players, especially since the last time he flung a disc was like states 8 years ago in the rain or something like that. :lol: Why don't you come out to the island wednesday and play with us the last round of the 1st summer league series? You might like the more serious competitive feel of the league rather than the beer drinkin i wana go throw casual rounds. maybe we'll hook you into playing more or at least back to playing league. I won't give up on trying to get you back on the course.

[iflingpu@u2]

beer drinking casual rounds is the only way i can stand playing with most of you let me rephrase ALL of you.without beer there would be no golf just loud mouth girls screaming orders at the pilgrims cause the indians are getting restless,,stab at jiffy

[Sportznut]

first off, If you know anything about me, and ask the ones that do... I take my Dg seriously. I do not drink while i play, water or sports drink only. Casual rounds right now because of some serious burnout i incurred... The last event i played in was last summers bag tag challenge. so it has not been a year since i have thrown in an event

Again, I am lying in wait, letting my shoulder heal up, drop some pounds, and then come back seriously one more time and see what happens.

[Sportznut]

Yeah, bored.... As a giant smack runner in the indoorfootball message boards over the past 4 years.. I have not gotten off to a great start at it this season.. So i need to get back in the swing so that means to agitate everywhere i post.... Get back into form LOL

[chessguy]

I just report the facts!

Here's my take on Tyrrell park. I understand the possibility of theft in having only a partial course up but wouldn't there be that possibility with all 18 in? I am assuming that all the baskets that there were for Tyrrell are somewhere safe waiting to be repaired? Is there any estimation how long that will take? I've heard talk of Klein maybe not being "playable" or something due to the ground being topped off? So any estimations on how long Klein may be in disarray? Wait, that might mean I'd have to drive to the Island to play golf as there'd be no baskets at Tyrrell and Klein would maybe be unplayable. Will the city need Klein's baskets pulled?

Most of you know that Jarred and I will be representing the Golden Triangle in this years Am Worlds in Tulsa. We are very much looking forward to it and we are in somewhat of an "in training" mode 'til then. I'd love to play Tyrrell real soon as I'm ready to "air it out" a bit. Whether that's 10 baskets or 5 I don't care! I have read the posts on this issue and I can understand and sympathize with each argument. However, not having any baskets out at Tyrrell park until after Worlds possibly is a depressing thought. Dustin, I'm sorry the pressure got to ya to remove the baskets. I wish you had left them and then as repairs or whatever are needed then yank one or two, fix 'em, put those back and then get a couple more. This "grand" idea of waiting until we have 18 baskets and then put them in sounds great but it surely doesn't help Jarred and I out in preparation for Worlds. I understand that is not all about me but I'm for disc golf and where there are no baskets, there is no disc golf!

I am always willing to help out in any way I can and I'll even pay to purchase a new basket for Tyrrell. Let's just not put it off forever. I mean, normally things get done in quick order, right? :?:

[iflingpu@u2]

first off let me say didnt ask cause i dont take golf seriously, and dont enjoy playing seriously i drink beer in every event and enjoy that seriously if you wanna play casually and drink beer id like that cause thats how john rollz no offense

[fuzzy]

in short..we can do one basket at a time and it would cost $100+ per basket to get them finished...or we can fix them all at the same time and it cost just over $100 total...yall can do the math.

As for just a few baskets out there getting them stolen as opposed to a full complete REAL course...it is more likely they would get stolen from a halfassed 10 hole course that NO ONE ever went to then it would be an 18 complete course that SOME poeple actually went to.

[sturmgeist]

and they need to be in locking sleeves. I was thinking of them being out there just stuck in the ground, cause Wozniack said they only found like 1 or 2 of the sleeves

[chessguy]

in short..we can do one basket at a time and it would cost $100+ per basket to get them finished...or we can fix them all at the same time and it cost just over $100 total...yall can do the math.



All at once sounds like a winner! I'm for the most prudent way. How is this being taken care of again and what time frame are we looking at? It seems that in the past things have gotten put off for longer than they should have, or simply never done. Yes, it was a shame that more people didn't get out and enjoy Tyrrell more. Oh, so looonnnng, I'm scared!!! lmao It seems that there could easily be a 27 hole course out there, right? Maybe we should look into designing a 27 hole course there. Give people the option of playing 18 which maybe didn't cover as much land/walking distance. But then there's the issue of the 18 winding back to the parking lot where hole 1 started. hummm

Question! What are the chances of finishing our existing baskets, purchasing whatever new ones we need, and putting them in in say 1 month from now. Say June 10. Is that a feasible goal? Is there some reason why we can't set a goal and work towards it as if it were a work deadline?

[fuzzy]

If I am not mistaken we are going to be one basket short for TP.(thank the local player(s) that like to steal shit) What need to be done;

#1 All baskets and parts avaiable need to be brought to Jeff's shop.
#2 Serperate Strokesavers form homeade parts.
#3 Strip the baskets down(includes paint and rust removal)
#4 Fix welds
#5 Send to the Galvinizer

While that is going on we need to find chain and/or find money or other alternitive for some chain. Would be nice to replace all the rusted chain that has very little life left but the main goal is to get enough chain for the replacement baskets that do not have any chain at all. We also need to get a few poles, locks,sleeves and concrete and of co urse a design.

To answer your question: no it aint gonna happen in a month IMO

[sturmgeist]

Well at least not EVERYTHING has to be done in sequence. A design can be worked on independantly of the progress with the baskets, and the periphery stuff: chain, poles, concrete, etc can be gotten while they're being worked on, or when they're finished.

[el-jefe]

first off, If you know anything about me, and ask the ones that do... I take my Dg seriously. I do not drink while i play, water or sports drink only. Casual rounds right now because of some serious burnout i incurred... The last event i played in was last summers bag tag challenge. so it has not been a year since i have thrown in an event

Again, I am lying in wait, letting my shoulder heal up, drop some pounds, and then come back seriously one more time and see what happens.


Just trying to rouse you up a little. get you motivated. the exagerations were a little much but even so its been a year?

[el-jefe]

I just report the facts!

Here's my take on Tyrrell park. I understand the possibility of theft in having only a partial course up but wouldn't there be that possibility with all 18 in? I am assuming that all the baskets that there were for Tyrrell are somewhere safe waiting to be repaired? Is there any estimation how long that will take? I've heard talk of Klein maybe not being "playable" or something due to the ground being topped off? So any estimations on how long Klein may be in disarray? Wait, that might mean I'd have to drive to the Island to play golf as there'd be no baskets at Tyrrell and Klein would maybe be unplayable. Will the city need Klein's baskets pulled?
Klein will be unplayable for at least 2 months according to the parks dept. Thats how long they will be working in the park and dumping and moving dirt. Estimat about 4' in the lowest spots. After the work is complete it will take some more time to let grass grow and the land to settle. Id say klein will be out of commission for 2-3 months depending on the weather and other project delays. yes we will need to pull the baskets and sleeves. more on that in a couple days, im hoping i can get the city to do that. yes the island will be the pnly course.
Most of you know that Jarred and I will be representing the Golden Triangle in this years Am Worlds in Tulsa. We are very much looking forward to it and we are in somewhat of an "in training" mode 'til then. I'd love to play Tyrrell real soon as I'm ready to "air it out" a bit. Whether that's 10 baskets or 5 I don't care! I have read the posts on this issue and I can understand and sympathize with each argument. However, not having any baskets out at Tyrrell park until after Worlds possibly is a depressing thought. Dustin, I'm sorry the pressure got to ya to remove the baskets. I wish you had left them and then as repairs or whatever are needed then yank one or two, fix 'em, put those back and then get a couple more. This "grand" idea of waiting until we have 18 baskets and then put them in sounds great but it surely doesn't help Jarred and I out in preparation for Worlds. I understand that is not all about me but I'm for disc golf and where there are no baskets, there is no disc golf!
go throw in a field if you want to "air it out" the island will also let those "big" guns of yours work. fuzzy is course rep at tyrrell, not dg. you can play target dg the way it was done in the begining. there were no baskets, just throwing down the road to cousin jeds mailbox, then making up the next hole as you finish the previous. we need about 800 mo dollas to do what needs to be done ( new chain) but if we don't get that, we ll leave the old chain. sorry for the inconveniance but blame rita and no one else, the club is doing what has to be done to make it right but it won't happen overnight.
I am always willing to help out in any way I can and I'll even pay to purchase a new basket for Tyrrell. Let's just not put it off forever. I mean, normally things get done in quick order, right? :?:
if we were contracting the work out we could get it done real quick. Hell, if someone would donate 5 grand we could have the course up and running as quick as they could be shipped. but since we are doing them in house you may have to wait some.

[el-jefe]

I am going to try to strip the baskets this weekend if time permits. we may have a little time before we need to pull the baskets from klein it allow them to do the much needed work. After I strip them I am going to sandblast the rust off so that I can drop them at Tims workpalce so he can weld those that need to be fixed. after that, they will go to be galvanized. After that they will be put in the ground.
i still need to grab the remaining 5 that are still out at tyrrell. In order for this to be done, I need them all at once, I really don't have time to do them a few at a time. As of now, the only playable course is the island. It looks like we may be able to get tyrrells baskets done and in the ground in 3-4 weeks. Klein will take considerably longer before it will be playable.

[iflingpu@u2]

lone star thanks you for the new props cause thats how THEY roll .

[chessguy]

I'll buy some friggin' chain. Just tell me where to get it and how much/length etc...

If there are baskets in a park, then it is playable! PERIOD
Why in the world would a little (or a lot) dirt stop anybody from playing dg? c'mon