Tyrrell Park status thread

[sturmgeist]

Alright, I got a bit of a lecture from an irate World Champion the other day about Tyrrell Park's continued absence and his dismay at the fact that nobody has taken him up on the offer to fix the baskets so it can be put back up.

So what's the deal here? Are we gonna put the course back in out there? Is there some secret reason somebody doesn't want the course back? Cause I don't know how many times I've seen threads or gotten messages with the basic idea "Thinkin about goin and workin on the baskets today/tonight/tomorrow/_____" and I, and others, have responded, ready to go to work, and then there's just crickets chirping.

I have to say, this is getting ridiculous. I mean, it's BEEN ridiculous - we have someone willing to fix the baskets for free, willing laborers, and more than enough trucks between all of us to get shit done, what the hell is the deal? There's not a legitimate excuse for why the course isn't back ALREADY, much less that the baskets haven't even been touched, and yet we're discussing a May 5th tournament at Klein. What the hell happened to priorities?

I don't want any responses going off on tangents about "why" nothing has been done, I don't care, it's a moot point. I want to know WHEN we're gonna do something, and WHO I have to strangle to get something started on it. THe baskets are consolidated, Vance is ready, and last I heard, there's a galvanizer/sandblaster lined up to finish the job out. I think we could have the course put back within just a couple of weeks of STARTING to work towards it. So when the hell are we gonna start?

Vance is expecting a call from me in the near future tellling him we're ready for his help. I expect to be able to MAKE that call in the near future.

[chessguy]

Well said, Will. I second that.

[dg]

i could go tomorrow, anyone second that?

[fuzzy]

We could let Jeff and Neal design it and call it " Brokeback Disc Golf Course".

[el-jefe]

come get the fucking baskets. If you have the time and money to get them done and finished as well as the money for the replacement baskets, by all means come get them. They all need new chain, they will all need new poles, they will need the concrete to set them. You will need the tools to remove the poles from the baskets and tops in order to give them to d vance about a third of the baskets we are going to try and salvage really need to be replaced. In the mean time, since there are obviously all these people willing to work, collect some money and put some tone poles in the ground and then when the baskets are finished and the new ones are purchased, we can go slide them on the poles and be done. My intentions are to do it up right. I don't want to put a basket in the ground when the basket is rusting and falling apart. I don't want to put in 2/3 of a course. Tyrrell is gone. When we get the money to fix and replace baskets, it will be resurected. If you want it done sooner, drop off the cash to roy. By the way, where is this money coming from? Roy has brought in some cash from coburns, I have donated and raised some funds. What have you done? Hell there were more players from outside the area at the pi tourney than from the GT. They were buying multiple ctp throws and then only throwing once, just because the money was going for tpark. I am glad to see all those who didn't have the cash to play pi showed up to help out. No support, just a bunch of winny ass bitches. give me give me give me, I want I want I want. bring me some money and I ll give you the time of day on this subject. And If its not TALK, come get the baskets and fix them. Otherwise I will do them as I see fit and when I have the money to do them all at once. I don't have the time to piece meal them. Call me my cell # is 284.1706 and Ill meet you at the office and help you load the baskets. I'll be expecting your phone call and will be free this afternoon to help load the baskets. Man I am sooooo glad that someone is stepping up and taking care of the baskets, both the physical labor as well as the financial shortcomings we are having. So the park will be back up and running in what 2 weeks? 3? I am soooo excited. Call me asap and we can get these rusting out pieces of shit outa my warehouse and I can move my tbird indoors. Also while we are at it, lets have some elections. I am tired of being pres let someone else put up with this crap. I nominate kneel for pres. maybe we can have online elections? caal me lets get these baskets taken care of,

sturm, call me Im waiting to hear from you. do you have a wayto transport them? I nominate sturm for treasurer. he obviously is really good with money, cause he can get the baskets done, new ones purchased for what we have. cool.


Sturm, haven't you been working on this dvance fix for, golly what seems like the last 3 or 4 months. how long will it take to do the actual work? 3 or 4 years? come get them, I'll set them outside the back bay door if I get done with work and haven't heard from you. just make sure to call me and let me know you will be picking them afterhours. make sure you pick them up or the scavengers will haul them to the metal yard for cash. hmmmm I could scrap all these shitty baskets and buy one good basket for t park. at least its a start.

[chessguy]

I see we're not gonna get anything done with Jeff at the helm. I mean look how long it has been already. I say put in the crappy b roken baskets and lets play some dg!!!

[fuzzy]

Yea that's an idea....just remember the baskets arent what you remember them to be. i can only think of a couple that have a pole that is usable. Not to mention there isnt even 18 of them.

Oh and whatever you do, you need to go through the city to do it since they have a major rework of the back of the park on their agenda.

[fuzzy]

Btw, yall should stop putting this all on Jeff's shoulders..errr...shoulder......no matter who is at the forefront nothing is gonna get done....if you dont beleive me then show me different....

[chessguy]

I know it's not on any one person's shoulders. Just like to pick at Jeff. Is where we're at that the baskets need to be transported to Vance's? If so, then that should happen right away.

[dg]

dang jeff, do you always have to write a really long response without breaking the sentences up or seperating paragraphs and stuff?

i'll take care of the baskets so everyone undue your panties

[el-jefe]

We really should have all the money needed for the repairs and chain as well as already have purchased the needed replacement baskets before we do anything.
once we have the baskets we need and the cash to galvanize the baskets and tops, purchase new chain, poles and concrete we can have a work day, cut off the old poles and chain and mark the spots that need to be welded. Thay go to dave he does his thang and drops them at the galvanizer. I'll pick em up and we will have another work day to assemble and install (I'll try to get the chain on before the work day).
Hopefully we can do some things to raise the cash we need to get this started. I am really excited about the may 5th tourney and its potential for a big draw. If we can get some sponsorship cash and product we can really raise some cash in the raffle.
Money don't grow on trees and baskets don't either. I can't put up the cash to do it myself or i would. There were some baskets given out or sold cheap by Thomas that were from tpark, if there was really a desire to get tpark back up quicker, id have expected for those baskets do be, huh....donated or something back to the park. but then again that would mean making a sacrafice, but it would save us about 1200 bucks that we would have to raise to buy new ones.

Now that Ive said what I have to say about the baskets, the city is the next "fix". I need to coordinate with the head of parks in order to either be included in the design of the park or be told what the set up will be so we can design around what they have planned. That area is getting a major overhall. new everything. shelters are coming down, the white building will be gone. There is no new design to look at yet so we are waiting on the slow as molasses government machine to do what it does. so we cant design a course yet and we can't leave the baskets out there when they do the work. The area will most likely be closed and we won't be able to play and the workers could easily mistake a basket for something that needs to be removed and on and on and on.
We had a hurricane destroy the area and I am sorry this can't be done any faster. Now we can talk about installing them at another park, but we still have to have the cash to fix them up and buy the new ones, that we don't have. so if you want to do something to really help out, come up with some cash or a way to raise some.

[el-jefe]

I know it's not on any one person's shoulders. Just like to pick at Jeff. Is where we're at that the baskets need to be transported to Vance's? If so, then that should happen right away.
I like picking on you too kneel. we finally have something in common besides disc golf. having said that, Iwould normally goad you with some gay joke or something like that but Im going to restrain myself from my normally quick wit and sharp tounge because I am going to nominate you for pres when we organize elections and I need you to be emotionally sound to do that. KNEEL FOR PRES 07

[dg]

d vance cant do anything with the baskets till april

[el-jefe]

I say we raise the money needed to finish the job first before we "start" anything. It would suck to have baskets and no chains or poles. Like I said, they could be done tomorrow but they can't be put in untill we have an idea of what the city is doing and then we need to find out if they can stay while that work is being done.

[el-jefe]

I am guessing no one has anything else to say? No suggestions to raise some cash? No ideas for may 5th? We have the potential to raise enough money in one day to buy 2 baskets or all the chain we need. We need to market this and get on the pdga forums page to talk up the "new" klein design, as well as the raffle and the fact that everything we raise will go to rebuild tp. I iam going to start carrying with me a "piggy bank" and will copllect loose chain from everyone I see at the course. It all adds up and will be used, like I said, every penny we collect puts us closer to our goal. Income tax returns will be coming in, spare a 50 for tp. MONEY is our goal right now.

[el-jefe]

I was hoping that with all the talk on bringing the park back that some ideas would have been posted by now that could generate some cash. I guess everyone just wants and wants but aint willing to put forth the effort to do anything except bitch and complain and point fingers at me.
I am going to try and talk to a few people I know that either have the kinda money to give it to us or know someone that will. If I can get someone to "sponsor" the park, I will name the course after them their business, in memory of their parents, whatever. Yea I know its sellin out but hey, what else can I do. Kinda the same thing as adding the google ads to the site.
If I can get that cash generated quickly, we can get the baskets done. The only problem, they won't be put back a tpark right now. I will find a suitable park that will not require too much work and we will put them their temporarily and move them to tpark. we will leave the sleeves and can purchase new baskets at a later date to put at that park seeingf as thoough the sleeves will already be in place.
Now in the future, when you bitch, remember this. I have asked for your help, I have explained what is needed to accomplish this goal (CASH), and we have plenty of time before the 5/5 tourney to plan and execute a marketing plan to bring in a large entry field and develope fundraisers to raise the cash we need. We could collect enough cash at the event to either buy all the chain we need or possibly purchase the baskets needed. By the way, anyword on those old baskets thomas gave away and sold cheap? just wondering.

[dg]

what baskets thomas gave away or sold cheap?

[el-jefe]

what baskets?!?!?! :roll:

[chessguy]

If we need to raise $$$ to get Tyrrell Park resurrected then put me down for a hundy.

[dg]

what baskets?!?!?! :roll:


is my basket the only one your referring to? you were acting like there were a bunch of them somewhere.

if it comes down to it and we need my basket, i'll donate it, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there

[sturmgeist]

Nobody pointed a finger at you Jeff, nobody said anything about you. You just started going off for no reason, and I think if you went back and looked through the posts for the last few months, you'll discover that you've done more bitching than anyone here. I can't say you've made a good president, I don't have anything else to compare it to, but you show all the techniques of an experienced politician: assertion, card stacking, name calling, etc.

You christened me as intermediary to get with Vance about repairs to the baskets, and I did what was asked of me, since you couldn't be bothered to make a phone call on your own. What kind of bueracracy would this be if the President, who is in posession of the baskets, made the phone call to the man offering to repair them. That'd be WAAAY too efficient. Instead, you handed it off to me as a go-between, and through spite, or to prove some point, or out of your own amusement, set me up to fail fromt he beginning. I got with Dave, and he's been ready to work on the damn things since before you put it off on me, but you haven't been forthcoming with ANY of the answers to the questions he needed answered before he could commit to it. 1)How many baskets can use his services? 2)Of those baskets, how many need bending, and how many need welding? To those questions, I added 3)How many baskets are the overall? 4)What is needed to bring the remainder of them(outside galvanizing) up to snuff for installation?

I can't answer those questions cause I havent' even SEEN the damn things, and you never have given me a straight answer on any of that, yet I'm supposed to communicate this to Vance - you see how assinine this whole arrangement is? Untill I am shown otherwise, I am of the opinion that you did the classic political maneuver of delegating labor NOT with the intention of getting anything done, but with the intention of seguring a fallguy to point a finger after you make sure nothing progresses.

Another classic politician move - blame everything on money, or lack thereof. Throwing money at a problem always makes it go away. :???: You keep citing our lack of money, and that WE need to donate money or raise funds or get sponsors or what have you, but since you haven't answered those questions above, the amount of money needed is this nebulous concept. Answer those questions and the amount of money needed can be estimated, and then we'll have something tangible to work toward. And Vance was offering his services for free, so lack of capital is a non-issue in regards to that. But I see what you're saying about how it would suck to have baskets ready, and no poles to stick them up on. You're right... MUCH better to have a bunch of broken ones, of course.

But whatever you say man, it's our fault, cause we're lazy whiney bitches, same as with the state of Klein, we're so lazy and whiney we haven't fixed the drainage problem, which is worse now than it ever was before, and we haven't spit shined the fairways to a gleaming luster as per your requests. And who the hell do we think we are to have not complied? After all, you're the decider...

Sorry to have inconvenienced you, El Presidente.

[el-jefe]

Nobody pointed a finger at you Jeff, nobody said anything about you. You just started going off for no reason, and I think if you went back and looked through the posts for the last few months, you'll discover that you've done more bitching than anyone here. I can't say you've made a good president, I don't have anything else to compare it to, but you show all the techniques of an experienced politician: assertion, card stacking, name calling, etc.

-----who else are you are would you have been referring to in the first post? the club? lets find out out many members are current and paid up and who has made any effort to raise the cash needed to get the job done whether current member or not? Yes, I have done most of the bitching, but you do not understand the frustration I have trying to be "president" and every other hat that I wear. I have repeatedly asked for help but got none. I am not talking about work days at klein, thats another topic, Im speaking of the fundraising, whether its going out to get money or coming up with ideas to raise funds. Now your last statement, I don't know whether to take as a compliment to my geopolitical stratigic knowledge or if its an attempt to make me out as a morally bankrupt club president.


You christened me as intermediary to get with Vance about repairs to the baskets, and I did what was asked of me, since you couldn't be bothered to make a phone call on your own. What kind of bueracracy would this be if the President, who is in posession of the baskets, made the phone call to the man offering to repair them. That'd be WAAAY too efficient. Instead, you handed it off to me as a go-between, and through spite, or to prove some point, or out of your own amusement, set me up to fail fromt he beginning. I got with Dave, and he's been ready to work on the damn things since before you put it off on me, but you haven't been forthcoming with ANY of the answers to the questions he needed answered before he could commit to it. 1)How many baskets can use his services? 2)Of those baskets, how many need bending, and how many need welding? To those questions, I added 3)How many baskets are the overall? 4)What is needed to bring the remainder of them(outside galvanizing) up to snuff for installation?

----You told me of Davids offer and I told you to set it up. Its call delegating responsibility. I knew David was working out of town alot and told you to find out when he had time. As for the baskets, I told you we had 15 and that there were 3 or 4 that needed some spot welds. That was it, I never was informed of a date to get the baskets to him or where to take them ( I think Dave told me to drop them at his shop, but that was a while back) and I have said that the baskets are in my office warehouse and to come get them. To answer # 4, which is kinda obvious and i don't remember being asked is chain, pole, concrete.


I can't answer those questions cause I havent' even SEEN the damn things, and you never have given me a straight answer on any of that, yet I'm supposed to communicate this to Vance - you see how assinine this whole arrangement is? Untill I am shown otherwise, I am of the opinion that you did the classic political maneuver of delegating labor NOT with the intention of getting anything done, but with the intention of seguring a fallguy to point a finger after you make sure nothing progresses.

-----Nope you are wrong, but I did have my doubts it would get done seeing as though dave was out of town so much and my schedule is so chaotic with me doing my business as well as alot of my Dads out of town business since he had his stroke. so I seriously doubted it would all come together but was willing to give it a shot. And yes, I told you to get it done, you had spoken with Dave so I figured you could take care of it. I also told you to tell Dave to call me if he had any questions. Anybody pointing fingers at you? I don't believe that I have ever brought this up nor held it against you. i would never make you out to be a "fallguy", i like you too much. I hate that you feel that way. Why would I want to make sure nothing progresses? What exactly are you saying by that?


Another classic politician move - blame everything on money, or lack thereof. Throwing money at a problem always makes it go away. :???: You keep citing our lack of money, and that WE need to donate money or raise funds or get sponsors or what have you, but since you haven't answered those questions above, the amount of money needed is this nebulous concept. Answer those questions and the amount of money needed can be estimated, and then we'll have something tangible to work toward. And Vance was offering his services for free, so lack of capital is a non-issue in regards to that. But I see what you're saying about how it would suck to have baskets ready, and no poles to stick them up on. You're right... MUCH better to have a bunch of broken ones, of course.


-----Man, if you can get this done with no money, I will petition to have the course named after you, a lifetime membership to the club and an annual tournament in your honor. Dave has offered to weld the broke welds and that would take care of the "bent" or better described as distorted baskets. But what Dave is offering to do dosen't pay for the galvinization, the chain, the poles, and the concrete. Throwing money at this problem would make it go away, its all we need to get the job done. You are really reaching here. We know what the galvanizing is going to cost, we know about what the chain will cost, I still need to price the poles and concrete and we still need to decide on what baskets we are going to replace the damaged and missing ones with. We know chain and galvanizing will be about a grand, and I think we have about 1300 right know. we need another 1300 for the 3 new baskets (pricing mach 3's off top of my head) so as you can tell, we need more money.


But whatever you say man, it's our fault, cause we're lazy whiney bitches, same as with the state of Klein, we're so lazy and whiney we haven't fixed the drainage problem, which is worse now than it ever was before, and we haven't spit shined the fairways to a gleaming luster as per your requests. And who the hell do we think we are to have not complied? After all, you're the decider...


----Its your house as well as mine. If you want the course to saty as is so be it. Is it too much to ask for 15 mins before a round to pull out some ground clutter? I try to make it a point to do it as often as I can. Is it too much to ask for someone to spend an hour one day with a shovel digging out a shallow, little trench to drain a a section of fairway that holds water? I mean you are a club member and should want whats best, but maybe you think the dg govment should do it for you? All I have to say is I do all I can do. I have used my business to donate around 500 bucks to the club since its coming about and personnaly i have put in about 300. I do all I can. I just love the way you are trying to portray me. Since kneel has said that he dosen't have time to be president because he dosen't have the time and it would cut into family time(or something like that) but how about you, Im sure you can do it. How about it? wanna be president? I mean you got the skills, your articulate so you should be able to go talk to and work with the head of parks and rec as well as talk to potential sponsors. Your intelligent enough to make logical decisions. your perfect for the job. just let me know and I'll gladly pass the torch. (wait a minute, this could set you up to be the fallguy, cuz when you take over, the problems will be the same, as the old saying goes, "same shit different flies"

Sorry to have inconvenienced you, El Presidente.
-----de nada, I hape you will take me seriously about taking over, I don't know if my schedule will lighten up to allow me to do more but I seriously doubt it will.



In closing "Vive Tyrrell Park" ( my geopolitical stratigic knowledge slogan)

[chessguy]

I think part of Will's frustration comes from being a "frequent" player wanting to have options of which course to play. That is how I feel anyway. I think if Jeff had been playing regularly over the past several months that maybe it would've been more of a priority for him but delegating responsibility is not a bad thing. One must follow up and not wait for a thread or Tyrrell discussion to pop back up 2 or 3 mos. later to remind us....oh, no, wait Tyrrell is not up yet! :neutral: So there was some miscommunication...it happens.

Enough of the bickering about why it is not up. Let's just move on. I think Klein needs to be our priority now as a club. Sure if we could get Vance the baskets and he can do the work in April then cool, that doesn't one bit interfere with hauling sticks and branches out of the thick stuff to be removed.

Can we do a workday on Saturday for about an hour and a half followed by a mini or casual round? I'll be on Spring Break next week and I wouldn't mind doing some work out there but let's face it, no one wants to go out and do it alone so maybe we can get a few peeps out to clear some of the limbs out. Let's not wait until the last minute to clean up Klein.

Jeff or Dustin or whoever, post up for a workday. WHO CAN COME OUT AND HELP??? Say 10:00 a.m. to noon-ish then break for lunch then come back and play some dg???

[el-jefe]

I want Klein cleaned up and worked on a little. I want it in good condition for the tournament. There are a lot of things I want to get done. If we market the tournament and fill it, then do some kick ass side games and raffles to raise money, We could easily clear 800 bucks in one day. That is if we put together a marketing strategy with posts on pdga forums and speaking with other dgers around texas lousianna to promote it. 100 players spend 10 bucks each on ctp and raffle tickets and or other games. thats a grand. priorities are that we need money. I have been yelling this till my face is blue. I can't tax you or make you pay to play to raise the funds needed to raise the money like a govment would. Cheese has commited 100 bucks to the club, but Im gonna suggest sponsoring the event with that money to acquire raffle stuff. We need to look at victoria for some inspiration, they got it going on right now.

[chessguy]

Cheese has commited 100 bucks to the club, but Im gonna suggest sponsoring the event with that money to acquire raffle stuff.

Jeff, you said we need cash to get Tyrrell back up and running and that's exactly where I want my $$$ to go as I am very interested in getting Tyrrell back up and running.

I will, however, provide some sponsorship either in funds or plastic to the Klein stop.

[dg]

Workday Saturday is fine by me, but I wont be back to town until around 1pm. I'm on spring break next week too, so I plan on getting some stuff done out there next week.

[Jrodisc]

I'm defenitly willing to help. If I can have all day Sat. to do whatever I want then I'll see about getting the Bobcat out there and we can get all of the crap out to the road where it can be picked up. I don't know if I'm free though so we'll see.

[el-jefe]

I said that I was going to suggest that the money go to raffle stuff. The better the raffle the more money is spent on raffle tickets. 100 bucks of stuff could amount to 300 in raffle sales. 100 dollars, 300 dollars, it still isn't enough to put the wheels in motion. a grand, will just about do what we need and leave us with nada in reserve. But it will mean the baskets will get done. ------- (I am not putting down your donation, but your the only one and it just isn't enough to get things started any quicker.)
Now, even though we have the baskets done, we still have to wait on the city. I do not want the baskets out there during construction, at least not with the amount of work that is to be done and the fact the area will be closed to the public. I'll meet with Kirby when I get back from Florida and see where they are with design and what the schedule is looking like. If anyone has an area of the circle that they would like to see set aside for the course that I can suggest to Kirby, let me know. That way we can stack some holes and basically have exclusivity in the area of the course and not have to worry about people at picnic tables or whatever.
so we are still no closer to putting tyrrell park back in than we were last week or the week before. If you are wanting other course options, the only logiczal conclusion is to put tp's baskets in another park, temporarily untill tp is finished and ready to go. Who knows, by then we could have raised some more money and have enough to put new baskets in tyrrell. I want to be totally neutral and let you tell me what you want. this is the only conclusion I could come to when taking in everyones wants and needs for tp back up and more course options.
this is the discussion board, lets discuss, but if we don't come up with the cash need to complete this project, this will all be just more of the same. All talk and no action.
hey dg, sorry I won't be there sat. I leave for disney with the family friday and will be gone all of spring break. I hope you can get some help, id be there if I could.

[sturmgeist]

Alright, I know I'm being unnecessarily harsh on you Jeff, but it's served its purpose. Just reminding you how bitter you own medicine is. If nothing else, be proud that you can provoke such a detailed response - you've always been able to get those out of me. Neal even told me I was being hard on you.

I know the money situation sucks, and that's one area where I'm really of little use. I've never been adequate with fundraising. Never could sell school candy, miles for the red cross, and got shot down at Academy, Gander Mountain, Target - everywhere in the area that I went with my little printouts trying to get sponsors for the PI stop.

I dunno about what to do to raise funds. What do we do, have a bakesale? Have an auction down at Tyrrell Park? Put Fuzzy's beard on the block? Lester's virgin ass could probably fetch a few dollars. What about having a community day down at the park, designating a saturday or sunday afternoon, and give hourly lessons to kids or anyone else interested for 5 dollars a pop? I know local PGA course pros do things like that don't they?

I suggest using Neal's donation to get some tone poles set up. I think it would be safe to put tone poles out there, even with impending work, because it's just a cheap length of pipe, not a $300 dollar basket. Much less to worry about. 18 lengths of galvanized pipe, 18 short lengths of chain to attach to them, just enough to rattle on a hit from a distance, and 18 little sleeves from inexpensive, weatherproof PVC pipe. Then remove the rattles, concrete them, and slide the baskets on like you said, when the time comes. I suggested getting a course's worth of tone poles for scouting prospective courses months ago and was pretty much laughed at. I still think it's a good idea.

[el-jefe]

Id rather not spend any money unless its to raise money or to sponsor a tournament. Since the pipe is inexpensive, if you guys on your own want to do that, that would be cool. Let me find out more info on the scheduling for tp so that everything is cool. you also may want to consider marking some trees and setting up an object course. Thats the fastest most inexpensive way to put up a course.
I would suggest going to more localally owned business. Restaurants, retailers, lawyers, etc... Big corporate business make you jump through hoops and write proposals and there is no guarantee of sponsorship.

-------I just thought of another option at tp. go retro. The original course had cheap wind chimes hung around and you had to make them ring. That would be kinda neat temporarily until either tp is built out or we finish the baskets and coordinate enough with the parks dept to put them in the ground. That was around 91-92, I had already gone off to school in san marcos. I played that design twice that I can remember.

[chessguy]

O.K. so let me try to understand this. The baskets that we do have have poles that are in tact? So are there 15 poles? Are the baskets attached to the poles? I don't want to be impatient but I'm down for the idea of putting up the poles that we have and like pick up the remaining one's we'd need and put up a tone pole course. Would there be any harm in doing just that? I'm friends with Andy, the golf pro out there and I could easily talk with him. I wouldn't want the very poles that we'd be needing for the baskets to get moved or destroyed, however. I think this discussion is finally leading to some action and with good timing also being better weather and more daylight playing time.

If this is a go then maybe we could get the poles from Jeff before he leaves so I (and others) could play out there during Spring Break?! :grin:

Oh, I'm fixin' to hit another Ace. I can feel it in me bones. :-)

[CypressTrout]

moved this to cinco de mayo thread.

[el-jefe]

poles are attached and will have to be cut off the baskets and tops in order for them to be galvanized. They are rusted and or welded to the baskets. Tone poles will need to be marked with a flourescent paint so no one runs into them. You need to talk with the parks dept. not the golf pro. hebert runs the golf course but does not have any authority outside the course. But he may know the scheduling that is planned for construction. Like I said, the cheapest easiest way would be to mark trees for an objects course. I would rather you guys put effort into raising some cash. Like maybe some can start running a weekly 3 dollar mini. 2 bucks to payout 1 to fundraising. 10-15 bucks a week untill may 5 will add up. Thats an easy way to raise money within the club. Maybe a singles mini and a doubles mini. that would double our weekly cash flow. just a thought.

[el-jefe]

income tax returns are starting to come in and I am in the process of trying to talk my wife into letting me buy one of the baskets we need. I am not sure if she will allow me to use all that money but if there is anyone out there that would like to split it with me, I think I can get half out of her pretty easily. If you are looking to donate money directly to tp that "would" make a big difference in getting it back up and running quicker, let me know. We could even split it 3 ways. Just throwing out ideas, if you got one, "SPEAK UP!!!" Don't expect me to come up with all the ideas. Easter is coming up, maybe we should do a big BIG easter egg hunt for the kids and collect donations. We could let the city know what we are doing and they might actually "sponsor" the event as well as letting all the news stations know about it and have it put on the community calender. I need some players who want to take on the responsibility of managing some of these things. My time is limited because of my work schedule. I can do some but not all. If you want to help run these things, let me know. I'll be here to support in any way possible and help when my schedule allows. Still waiting to hear if anyone wants to run some minis that will bring in a buck a player per round. At least with this fundraiser, you are playing dg.

[dg]

neil would be a great candidate for running fund raiser minis at klein, he's there as much as anyone

[el-jefe]

(...............sounds of crickets chirping..................)

The idea has been put out there and the request for someone to volunteer has too. There have been posts complaining about not having anything going on so someone needs to step up and run a mini or 2 on a weekly basis. I am not asking 1 person to do both, but if they have the time then by all means. this is probably the easiest fundraiser someone can do. 10 to 20 bucks a week untill the tournament will allow us to put an ipod shuffle into the raffle, or something cool like that. We can take that cash to bestbuy and see if they won't give us a discount on the purchase for the raffle. Since its spring break, put together a locals only spring break classic, and charge 10 bucks to enter 3 to the club, the rest to pay out. quick and easy way to raise 50 bucks in a day. Who knows, maybe we can turn it into a regular, non sactioned local event that will be a yearly fundraiser as well as membership drive. That reminds me, Roy, when does the new year begin? we will have some membership dues going into the pot. We will have another 200 bucks if we get 20 members to pay up this year. All ideas are welcome and encouraged. Volunteer so we can get this project finished before the end of the summer.





We need to find a way to bring the vidor guys into the club, and get them participating in the minis. We also need to find out whos playing out at the island and get them to participate also. The more members, the more legit we are. Also more members means sponsors are more interested as well as the more power we will have with the cities and counties.

[chessguy]

[QUOTE=el-jefe


We need to find a way to bring the vidor guys into the club, and get them participating in the minis. [/QUOTE]

THey played in our last mini and I'm sure they'll support whatever we have going on.

I'll start running some regular weekly minis for like $5 with $2 going to the club and $3 to payout.

Please consider running Leagues on a day other than Wednesday? :-)

[el-jefe]

Someone will need to run leagues this year and the person running the league will decide what day is a good day for him to run a league.
I have spoken with Rick Bannister and he has gone to a handicap system similar to pga except with not as many rounds involved. We could use or weekly mini to acquire player handicaps and all play one division with better payout for the winners. He said that all the players at the woodlands love the concept and their participation levels increased. Our regular weekly minis could all be played divisionally. Playing with handicaps will make it a lot more competitive also. We could also include a beginers division at our league that will allow beginers to play for free for nothing more than pride and bag tags, but have their stats tracked by us so they can see their progress. I know it would mean a little extra work but it would make for a kick ass spring and summer league. We need to discuss payout. We made a little off payout in plastic but we also got it in late. Should we use some of the money to pay out in plastic again? We didn't loose any money and we did make some, 'i think if we do just standard stamped discs and get a better asssortment, payout would be better. post up whether we should or shouldn't payout in plastic. We need to decide pretty soon in order to get them in for the first round of league. Should we start a league when time changes?

[dg]

hey roy, you take a look at the proposal yet? got any changes?

[AveSatani]

Sorry, I haven't. I will this weekend for sure. I'm swamped:mad:

[chessguy]

Looking down the line, what needs to be done to get Tyrrell Park course back? I know, teepads at Klein first.

[fuzzy]

As far as I can see...absolutely nothing. Its not in our hands now. We'll have to sit and wait.

[dg]

yea, i've got the proposal for the city ready, but i'm waiting on an appointment with the parks director.

really, tyrrel and klein are not in competition for time/ or money. they have their own funds and goals independant of eachothers timeline

[chessguy]

What is the basket inventory like? There are people that will sponsor individual new baskets.

[fuzzy]

Last i heard is that we didnt have any baskets becasue Jeff said he was going to keep them since they were put in his shop and we never picked them up. Of course we never picked them up becasue he was pres and wanted them there so HE could fix them but since he never did we have now aquired a storage debt to him and/or he is keeping them.

Gotta love the guy's logic on things though dont ya.

[dg]

Just wanted to update everyone who doesn't know where Tyrrell Park stands right now. The GTDG has submitted a proposal to the Parks Dept. of Beaumont. There are a several projects currently going on at Tyrrell Park and more to follow. We should know within a month or two if the Parks Dept. will likely move forward with the disc golf proposal. As soon as we learn more information indicating the Parks Dept.'s involvement we should all get together to look at the options and timelines.

[Jrodisc]

I'd have to clarify with my boss but I know we have room for them.

[fuzzy]

Any word in recent months?